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Chapter Fifty

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The 
Ultimate Sacrifice

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As you will soon find out, deception is a two way street.   This book is actually an interview with an Angel of Light whose mission is to expose "The Dark Side"  for what it is.   He/She shines the God-Light of Love, Inclusion, and Oneness into the pit of illusion, separation, darkness, anger, and fear.     F.A.Questions° 

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An Interview 
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The
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" The Devil " 

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Chapter Content

Is worshiping and fearing God the correct approach to The Source of All Creation?    The evidence seems to indicate that honor, respect, humility, and gratitude are a much more practical ways to relate to Source.   

This chapter sets the stage for some eye-opening insights about original sin and about the crucifixion of Jesus.   (Chapters 51 and 52)

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Anthill Analogy     ...      Anthill Analogy      

Big D    Stoney, imagine, for a moment, that you have created an ant colony in some far off corner of a distant forest somewhere in the backwaters of nowhere, and you have done so for the express purpose of having those ants build temples in which they bow down and worship you and beg you for favors.   Does that make any sense?   

T.L.C.    Not to me, but what's your point?   

Big D    Worship versus  honor, respect, humility, and gratitude.  

T.L.C.    Obviously you're leading me to something.  What is it?  

Big D    I'd like to share with you some insights about original sin and about the crucifixion of Jesus, and I need to set the stage for the story.    

T.L.C.    Ok, now I'm with you.  Please. . .   Set the stage.   

The Origin of Worship:   

Big D    There is absolutely no evidence what-so-ever to support the belief that the source of the universe either wants or needs to be worshipped by human beings.***ps-50-0 ¹   The practice of worshipping God is a holdover from ancient times when humans believed that the Earth was flat  like a three-layered cake, with heaven above the clouds and hell beneath their feet.   People in those days believed God was an angry, fickle, vindictive, arbitrary, needy superhuman being sitting on a throne in a place above the clouds called heaven.   

They believed that God was constantly at war with another super-powerful, being -- a being who was the evilest of evil, and who controlled a place beneath the earth's surface called hell.   

T.L.C.    So you don't come from a hot place beneath our feet?  

Big D    Is the Earth flat. . . ?   

I sat in silence.   I just looked at her.

Big D    To continue.   Two thousand years ago, people  believed that humans were victims in this war and that God demanded something from humans in order for them to get into God's heaven.  They weren't sure what God wanted, but if He didn't get it, they, the unfortunate humans who didn't give it to him, would be turned over to the super evil being and burn in hell forever.   They believed that natural disasters were acts of God intentionally punishing humans for not following God's orders.   

Humans regularly killed and burned animals on specially designed alters because they believed that suffering and sacrifice was a way appease God.  The ancient saying was, "The more you suffer, the closer you are to God.

T.L.C.    Why do I need to know this?    

Overview   

Big D    Because this is the context within which both the original sin story and the crucifixion story originated.    

T.L.C.    I take it you want to tell me something about those two stories.  

Big D    Yes.   

T.L.C.    Then how about an overview of what I'm in for.  

Big D    The original sin story and the crucifixion story  are at the core of present day Christian theology.   Unfortunately, they both represent a very dark interpretations of the Bible.   The Bible actually gives us a far more loving, more enlightening and more enlivening way to approach God.   

            Jesus was one of the greatest teachers who ever walked the Earth and his message is being grossly distorted.   I'm about to offer you a much healthier and much more functional perspective than that which presently dominates Christianity.   

T.L.C.    You've got to be crazy.   Everybody already knows what Christianity is all about.   

Big D    That's where the illusion comes in.   They really don't.   They think they do, but they don't.  

T.L.C.    So the Devil's going to come along and fix things.  Who do you think you're kidding?   

Big D    I'm not kidding.   Everything I'll share with you is supported by Biblical Scripture.   

T.L.C.    Big D, you've got a major marketing problem.   Who's going to believe you?   

Big D    Well, I got millions of mindless suckers to believe George Bush Jr. was a real born-again Christian, didn't I?  

T.L.C.    I'm not talking about peddling lies, I'm talking about telling the truth.   

Big D    I'll admit, telling the truth and getting people to believe you is definitely much  harder than peddling lies and getting people to believe them, but, remember, I am the greatest salesman in all of recorded history, and not only that,  the truth by its very nature is more powerful than lies.   It's much slower, but eventually it supercedes lies and illusions.  

T.L.C.    You still didn't tell me who you are going to get to believe you.

Big D    To start with, you are.   Do you believe what I've told you up to now.   

T.L.C.    You're the master of lies and deception.   To use your own words, "You could sell snake oil to a snake oil salesman."   You could lie me all the way to Sunday and back, and I'd have no way to know the truth.   

Big D    I've already told you where to find the truth.   Let me say it again.   The truth is a function of your own experience.   God speaks to you every day all day long through your feelings.  Go into your heart, into you feeling space, into the place where the-voice-within speaks to you, into what the Christians call "your conscience,"  into what some call "your gut feeling."  You'll find your truth there.    Trust yourself and stop blindly accepting or rejecting  what someone else tells you.   

Big D    You could still con me.   

Big D    Yes, I certainly could,  but only for a while.   The truth would sooner or later expose my lies.   I'm offering you an enlightened and wholesome perspective on the Bible and on the teachings of Jesus.

Big D    And you want me to tell it to the public.  

Big D    Yes.   

T.L.C.    Why?   You're the Prince of Darkness.  The ultimate purveyor of evil.   and you expect me to spread your message to the world. 

Big D    Actually, I have no expectations of you.   I do, however, invite you to hear my story and then, and only then, you decide what you want to do with it.   Have I treated you fairly up to now?  

T.L.C.    Yes.   

Big D    Then loosen up and listen.   You can, if you still choose to, violate the Christian Biblical teachings and pass judgment on me later.   And one other thing,  if you do write about this interview, you'll not be spreading my message, you'll be spreading the Master's message.

T.L.C.    I'm not following you.   

Big D    Be patient.   You soon will, because I intend to answer all your questions and expose you to a view of me that will knock your socks off.***ps-50-1 ¹   In the mean time, shall we continue?

T.L.C.    Let me clarify something first.    You're offering me a new  [previously ignored]   and wholesome vision of Biblical scripture.

Big D    Yup.   

T.L.C.    You're offering me a new way to look at who and what humans are and how humans relate to God and to nature. 

Big D    Yup.   

T.L.C.    And you're offering me a detailed expose' on the Devil, himself?   

Big D    Yup.   

T.L.C.    A real truth, a whole truth, and a nothing but the truth expose'?   

Big D    Yup.   

T.L.C.    From the Devil, himself?   Or is it herself?  

Big D    Yup.  Both.  

T.L.C.    And my job is just to listen with no strings attached?  

Big D    Yup.   

T.L.C.    And I'm not making any deals with the Devil, or making any commitments, or anything like that?  

Big D    Yup.

T.L.C.    Then, I accept your offer.  

Big D    Shall we continue?   

T.L.C.    Now it's my turn to say, yup.

Man's knowledge of God  

Big D    The scientific evidence, the Christian Bible,  the Muslim Koran and the teachings of the vast majority of scholars and philosophers throughout the centuries all support the following conclusion:   Humans know with provable certainty, absolutely nothing about God except that, what ever it is, it has a profound affect upon us.    Man's knowledge of God is about equal to an ant's knowledge of humans.   

T.L.C.    So how do you suggest we approach God? 

Another approach to God 

Big D    The evidence indicates that honor, respect, humility, and gratitude are a much healthier and much more practical ways to relate to that unknown Whatever-It-Is  that created the universe we live in.   The evidence also indicates that humans  are:   part of --  intimately interconnected with --  and co-creators with --  that Source we call "God."   The evidence indicates that humans are individualized pieces/aspects of God, Him/Her/Itself, with powers of command and creation about which most humans still don't have a clue.

           One might also consider stewardship of Sacred Mother Earth  (caring for the home that has been provided for us)  to be a much more practical and valid approach to Source than prostrating one's self in the mud and begging for mercy or favors.   

            For prayer, I suggest you follow the example of Jesus.   Because He understood the Laws of Intentional Creating, He simply declared his intention and then said "thank you,"  knowing full well that his prayer was already answered.   He used declarations, humility, and gratitude,  three of the major keys to mastering creation.***ps-50-1a ¹   

            So, Stoney, does that make sense to you now?

T.L.C.    That does seem quite reasonable.  

Big D    Then, I'd like to look a little more closely at the context in which these two stories occur.

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T.L.C.    Why is the context important, and how is the context relevant to original sin and to the crucifixion story?   

Big D    Are you aware of the principle:  "A Context Controls and Dominates its Content."   

T.L.C.    No.   What does that mean?

Big D    In essence, this principle tells us that in any story about an experience, the circumstances and conditions within which the event occurs  set the tone of  and dominate the meaning of the story.   In other words, the context***ps-50-1b ¹ within which an experience occurs influences, dominates, and controls its meaning.    And to say this in still another way, and Quoting Albert Einstein:   "Everything is the inevitable result of that which came before it."  

T.L.C.    So prior events set the stage for that which follows them.   

Big D    In the linear, Earth  time, they do.

T.L.C.    And the story about the forbidden fruit sets the stage for the Crucifixion story?   

Big D    Definitely.   Without the forbidden fruit,  the murder of Jesus would have to have a very different meaning.   

T.L.C.    Why do you say that? 

Big D    Because correcting the original sin problem is the context within which the crucifixion story is content [has it's existence].    Correcting the original sin problem is what the ancient Church leaders gave to the public as the reason why the crucifixion occurred.   So the question is:  In examining the crucifixion in light of its intended purpose, does the story make any sense?  

T.L.C.    Well, does it?

Big D    As you will soon see, it doesn't.   

T.L.C.    Whew!   If what you are saying is true,  then that revelation could really rock the belief boat for the fundamentalist Christians.

Big D    And rock it big-time.   

T.L.C.    You're going to have to show me the evidence before I'll believe you. 

Big D    Questioning the  foundation of Christian theology is something that the fundamentalist Christian leaders don't want to see happen.    That's why church leaders are intentionally  ignoring the context in which they claim that the crucifixion occurred.   And yes, I'll show you the evidence right out of the Bible.    In the mean time, there's more about understanding the meaning of a story that you'll probably want to know.   

T.L.C.    Yes, what is it?

Big D    In addition to the basic  context, the meaning and significance of every experience is also dependent upon   1) the nature of physical experience itself,  2)  the consequences [the ramifications, the future result] of the experience,  3)  the knowledge, wisdom and experience of the person witnessing or having the experience,  4)  the underlying belief system, [the mind set, the attitudes, and expectation] of the person witnessing or having the experience.***ps-50-1c ¹ and  5) the physical and social environment in which the incident actually occurs.

T.L.C.    When you said the physical and social environment,  were you talking about the difference between today and two thousand years ago?   

Big D    Yes, that is an important distinction.   For example if an airplane landed in a field near you, today, you'd probably not question the event.    However, if that same airplane landed in a field near someone two thousand years ago,  his interpretation of  that event would be very different.   He'd most likely think that God had come come down out of heaven.   

T.L.C.    So you are saying we need to look beneath the surface and consider all these factors in order to find the truth about any story.   

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Big D    Yes, and there's one more aspect regarding the context of this story that is important for you to examine before we get to the Biblical passages. 

T.L.C.    Alright, I'll wait.   Tell me the more about the context.   

Big D    It deals  with the ongoing argument about whether or not the Christian Bible is the literal word of God, and nowhere is that more important than in the Genesis story, itself.

T.L.C.    Why there?  

Big D    Because Genesis story sets the scene, and builds the context for everything else in the Bible.   Remember what I just told you  about context controlling and dominating content.   The first aspect is to consider is the belief system of the human beings who put God's word into the Christian Bible.   

T.L.C.    Yes, I recall you said that the  listener's underlying belief system  strongly influence  how the he interprets the story.

Big D    I'll briefly describe the underlying belief system out of which came both the forbidden fruit story which supposedly caused all future humans to be created  inherently evil and the currently-accepted version of the crucifixion story. 

          At that time,  millions of people [including those who wrote the Bible]  believed the Earth was flat like a three-layered cake with God,  an angry, vindictive, fickle, superhuman being,  living on a cloud in the sky, with themselves in the middle on a flat Earth, and with Satan in a hellfire-and-damnation pit below their feet.   People believed the Earth was  flat simply because it looked flat,  because others said it was flat, and because they had no information to counter that belief.  

T.L.C.    I've heard that they believed that if a boat sailed too far out into the ocean that it would fall off the Earth. 

Big D    They did.  Can you find anyone today who still believes that today?   

T.L.C.    No.  

Big D    To make this even clearer, let me take you on an imaginary journey back in time.   This will give you  a way of understanding the ground of being, the setting, and the mind-set of the people who actually who wrote the Christian Bible.      I'd like you to pretend that you are the child in the story I'm about to share with you.

T.L.C.    That's fine.   I'm willing to do that.  

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The Ultimate Sacrifice   

Big D    Then close your eyes and think yourself back in time to about two thousand years ago.   Imagine yourself as a child living in an arid, semi-desert environment where the collection of a few stone and clay huts were considered to be a town and the average home was a tent.   Imagine yourself living among superstitious sheepherders who believed the Earth was flat like a three-layered cake with Earth in the middle, God and heaven above, and Satan and hell below.    

            Imagine yourself  living among men who considered women as property, and who, all too often, cut out the clitoris of young females so that as adults they wouldn't desire sex and be unfaithful to their male owners/husbands.     Imagine yourself living among men who believed that killing animals and burning them was a way to appease the Gods.   [Gods plural]  In such a culture, what would be the ultimate sacrifice?   The answer is:  "To kill one of your own children as a sacrifice to God."  

T.L.C.    Isn't there a passage about that in the Bible.

Big D    Yes, in Genesis 22:1-2.   As a test of his obedience to God's orders,  Abraham, was instructed, by God, to murder his [Abraham's] only son as a sacrifice to God.

T.L.C.    But God stopped Abraham at the last moment.   

Big D    He did,  but think of the message which that story sends to the lay Christians.

T.L.C.    By lay Christians, you mean the followers of Christianity and distinct from the clergy.  

Big D    Yes, like the child in this story.

T.L.C.    He'd probably hear a strong self-image-destroying  message;  something like:   "You worthless, evil, little twerp,  you could be the next person murdered on God's sacrificial altar."   

Big D    That's the type of message that got plugged into children's minds in those days,  and, as you well know, childhood beliefs get  carried  into adulthood.   In such a culture, what would be considered the greatest sacrifice?    

T.L.C.    Killing one's own child.   

Big D    That's what the Abraham story tells us.  And who could make the biggest of the biggest sacrifices?   

T.L.C.    You?

Big D    Definitely not!   I'm referring to none other than God, Himself.   According to Christian theology, God turned the tables on humanity and murdered his own son as a sacrifice to humanity to prove that He (God)  loves all of humanity, including you.***ps-50-2 ¹  

T.L.C.    I wonder if Jack the Ripper loved his victims?   

Big D    No,  Jack was a product of a severely dysfunctional childhood.   And let's get back, now,  to my analogy of you being a child in the Middle East during the time the Christian Bible was being formulated.  

T.L.C.    OK.   

Big D    Because God murdered one of his children, you find yourself and everybody you know indebted to an extremely powerful, all-knowing, ever-present, fickle, angry, insecure, needy, vindictive, vengeful, son-murdering God  who is dishing out orders from some unknown place up in the sky above the clouds.    Now, Stoney,  as that little kid, tell me how do you feel?

T.L.C.    Scared of being murdered or sent to hell, or both.   I'd think that if God was willing to murder his own children, He'd not have a second thought about murdering worthless, evil me if I displease him.

Big D    Good,  you're into the story.    Let me continue.   God's orders are coming to you through an old man wearing fancy, expensive clothes, who lives in opulent wealth while you and almost everyone else live in poverty.   Everyone bows to and respects this revered leader and his agents because they have direct connections to God and you don't.   This revered old man sends God's orders out to you by way of  his agent, your local priest, and in addition to the orders, the priest warn you of the dire, eternal-damnation, hell-fire-and-brimstone consequences of doing anything contrary to what you are being told to do.   Even something as simple as questioning a priest's  authority is punishable by banishment from heaven and eternal condemnation in hell.   

Imagine, for a moment, that you are that ignorant, unschooled sheepherder's child who has never seen anything that's more than 30 miles from the place you were born.   Given the above set of circumstances, what would you do?   Would you make waves?   Hardly!   You'd bow down along side everyone else and pray to be saved from Satan.   

The Cycle Continues

And if and when you survived to adulthood in that environment, and had children of your own, what would you have taught  them about God?   And what do you suppose they would have taught their children.   

In this manner ancient beliefs have been carried along for generations.    Many religious-related beliefs that had their origins in antiquity are still being taught to children today as if those beliefs were provable facts.  

T.L.C.    You mean things like original sin?   

Big D    Yes.   And now  imagine you were a child in that environment who had been schooled to become a monk.   When you grew up, you ended up writing what is now accepted by fundamental Christians as the one and only sacred book on the entire planet.   Would your beliefs, your circumstances, your setting, you time in history, et cetera,  have affected what you wrote and how your wrote it? 

T.L.C.    Of course!  

Big D    Now imagine yourself, as you are today, being transported back in time to witness the life of Jesus and to be his biographer.   Your job is to write your version of the life of Jesus.   Would your version be anything like the present Christian Bible?   

T.L.C.    Almost certainly  not.  

Big D    So our job, today, is to look at the history of the early days of Christianity, to closely examine previously ignored biblical scripture, to look at the evidence available today that was not available when the Bible was first written, and draw some new conclusions.   

T.L.C.    Our job?   Are you pregnant?   Your talking about modernizing Christian theology.   You really are crazy!    

Big D    Anything that is not growing is busy dying.   

T.L.C.    You're  jerking my chain?   

Big D    Definitely not.   What if we leave present-day Christian theology exactly as it is and simply invite people to find God in their own hearts?   There are millions of people who believe in, love, and respect God but do not participate in any form of organized religion.  There are also millions of practicing Christians who are moderate and open-minded, and  who strongly disapprove of what the ultra-conservative Christian leaders are doing.   

        What if we simply offered these people a new vision of Christianity?   What if we showed them a previously-ignored pathway to God that is in the Bible, itself?   What if we said that anybody who wanted to participate in this ancient-but-new-for-them  way of experiencing God is invited?   What if we told them and then demonstrated to them that nobody will make any demands on them?   

T.L.C.    What about God?   Will God still make demands on them?   

Big D    If you mean demands from a superhuman being sitting on a throne somewhere above the clouds, No.    There are, however, several universal laws and principles that simply apply to all life in Earth -- laws such as the law of gravity and the Universal Law of Thought.   

T.L.C.    As I recall, the Law of Thought says that within the context of life on Earth in a physical body, every human being creates  his/her our own reality by beliefs, thoughts, words, attitudes and expectations.***ps-50-2a ¹   

Big D    That's correct.   Are you're with me?

T.L.C.    Well, now that you explained the basic idea . . .   

Big D    Then you'll play?   

T.L.C.    Let me put it this way;  I'm willing to listen to what you have to say, but I reserve making any commitments until I have more information.  

Big D   That sounds fair enough   Let's move on.    

T.L.C.   Please do.  

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Can Humans know God                          

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Big D   Another major factor we need to consider in setting the context for our two stories is that God is the ultimate mystery of all Creation.   

T.L.C.   But fundamentalist Christians leaders regularly tell their followers what God wants them to do.   

Big D   Just because they preach it doesn't mean it's true.   The vast majority of people who actively participate in fundamentalist Christianity believe everything their leaders tell them without question.

T.L.C.    Is there any scriptural support for what the fundamentalist leaders' claim that:  they know what God wants everybody to do and not do?   Can humans know God?  

Big D    For Centuries, scholars, philosophers, the Christian Bible, and basic common sense have been telling people that God is unknown and unknowable -- that God was the ultimate mystery of life.     

T.L.C.    And yet,  the fundamentalist Christian leaders tell anybody who will listen that they (the leaders) know what God wants everybody to do.