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Religion and Environmental Destruction
T.L.C.
Big D, tell me again, why you're giving me
this information.
Big
D
Because humanity is at a critical
juncture in its
evolution. Human-caused Global
Climate Change is making major, irreversible, life-altering, and death-dealing
changes in the Earth's environment.
T.L.C.
So,
what does religion have to do with environmental destruction?
Big
D
Everything!
T.L.C.
Why do you say that?
Big
D
Because
religious illusions are at the core
of the vast majority of human problems.
Religious illusions produce seriously-dysfunctional behavior, and
dysfunctional behavior is destroying the earth's capacity to support the
lives of many plant and animal species, including humans.
T.L.C.
Please
give me an example.
Big
D
Humans squander about fifty-percent of all the goods and services produced on
the entire planet producing or using tools for destruction.
With those weapons, they destroy a significant portion of the remaining fifty
percent. And the vast majority of the destruction is based on
unprovable religious beliefs.
T.L.C.
Thank
you.
Big
D
That's just the most obvious example.
T.L.C.
So you are telling
me my life is on the line, here.
Big
D
Not so much your life. Global Climate Change probably won't
kill you, personally, but for your children and grandchildren, it's a whole
different story.***ps-49-1
T.L.C.
I'm still not sure
how religious illusions are actually causing this problem. I need more
information.
Big
D
Religious beliefs are at the core of human behavior. They are the
foundation of most people's lives.***ps-49-2 For example, Buddhists teach
non-violence, radical Islam considers murdering non-believers to be an act
dictated by God, and most Christians consider "an eye for an eye" to
be acceptable behavior.
There are a great many things humans
believe that are simply not backed up by any evidence.
T.L.C.
Like what?
Big
D
I'm
about to share with you two examples of life-altering, life-controlling,
life-deadening illusions -- illusions that defy the countermanding
evidence -- illusions that have no physical evidence to back them up --
that
are in direct denial of Biblical scripture -- that defy common sense -- that are
blatantly dysfunctional -- and yet, both are being peddled and accepted as if it were a
provable facts. And both have a profound impact upon those who
believe them.
T.L.C.
What illusions?
Big
D
One deals with original sin and the other with the story about the murder of Jesus.
T.L.C.
Wow! You
really don't pull your punches. You're talking about finding holes
in the foundation stones of the most common and most heavily-promoted beliefs in
Christian theology.
Big
D
Yes, the original sin story and the crucifixion story are at the core of
present day Christian theology. Unfortunately, as they are
presently being presented to the public, they both
represent a very dark interpretations of the Bible. The Bible
actually gives us a far more loving, more enlightening and more enlivening
way to approach God.
Jesus was one of the greatest teachers who ever walked the Earth, and his message
is being grossly distorted. I'm about to show you a much
healthier and much more functional perspective of reality than that which presently
dominates Christianity.
T.L.C.
Come on, you're the
Devil!
Big
D
The supporting evidence comes directly from Biblical scripture.
T.L.C.
And not from
you?
Big
D
Not from me! From the Bible, from the Christian Bible.
T.L.C.
From the Bible. .
. Hmmm. . . That sounds
interesting and I'd like to hear about it, but religious leaders have been peddling
illusions for centuries. What's new?
Big
D
When the human population was small and before technology allowed people to be
grossly destructive, the Earth could sustain and recover from human
activities. That's no longer the case. Collectively,
humans are rapidly destroying the Earth's capacity to sustain the existence
of most of the life-forms presently living on Earth. Thousands
of species have become extinct in just the past one-hundred years.
And the evidence indicates that the rate of environmental destruction and the
rate of species extinctions are both speeding up.***ps-49-3
The Cosmic Titanic
T.L.C.
This is pretty heavy stuff. Why don't we just forget about derailing
the fundamentalist's end of Christianity, forget about Global Climate
Change and
talk about sex, or sports, or cars, or how to cook bananas . .
. or something that's fun?
Big
D
If you were riding the Titanic and you knew what was about to happen,
which one of your topics would you want to talk about?
T.L.C.
None of them, but
I'm not on the Titanic.
Big
D
Stoney, you're lying to yourself, and you know it. You, and every
other Earth-bound human being are presently riding on the cosmic version of the
Titanic. Symbolically speaking,
you are traveling at "full speed ahead," in the dark, in
iceberg-filled waters, with the captain and all the officers asleep in
their cozy little cabins of illusion. And do you know what
almost all of you
have been inspired to do while those in charge sleep?
T.L.C.
No, what?
Big
D
Again, symbolically speaking, "To sleep with the Captain or spend
their time and energy fighting over the deck chairs."
T.L.C.
Why do people fight instead of cooperate?
Big
D
Simply because most humans live their lives
as mindless sheep, following someone else's
instructions. Most have been trained to fight and they
were trained to fight by people who believed that fighting was more
productive than cooperating.
T.L.C.
Where did the teachers get the idea that fighting was better than
cooperation?
Big
D
From their parents, who got it from their
parents, who got it from their parents, who got if from their parents, who got
if from their parents . . .
T.L.C.
Whoa! Whoa! I've got it. Your talking about
multi-generation mindlessness has become a deadly global-level habit.
Big
D
Yes, in some cases the same
mindlessness has been carried in human consciousness this way for more
than a thousand years. Fortunately, it can be broken by
anybody who chooses to break the habit. That's a major piece of what
I'm offering you.
T.L.C.
So I could just wake up and things would be different?
Big
D
Yes and no. Waking up is the
first step. The second step is to put your new awareness into action
and actively work to alter both the ship's present course and your life.
T.L.C.
Tell me again why I should bother.
Big
D
Because, whether
you choose to admit it or not, humans
presently live within political, religious, social,
environmental, and
economic structures that are seriously
dysfunctional. The vast
majority of collective human behaviors are not
sustainable. Behaviors such as unbridled
population growth, wanton environmental destruction,
indiscriminate pollution, et cetera, are
leading all of humanity down the pathway to a massive and rather
sudden population reduction.***ps-49-1^
T.L.C.
Whew! That really is heavy.
Big
D
Unfortunately, yes, it is. Global Climate Change is about to bring changes to planet Earth that
are so profound and so drastic in how they alter the environment that human
survival is at stake. To date, the consequences of environmental
destruction have only barely begun to show up. Each environmental
change is compounding every other change and the collective consequences are
about to show up big time.
T.L.C.
Can you give me an
example?
Big
D
Easily: If the polar ice caps and the mountain glaciers keep melting
at the present rate, the ocean level will soon rise by about forty feet. New
Orleans will disappear under the ocean as will much of Florida, London, Venice, and New York
City.
T.L.C.
It's that
serious?
Big
D
Absolutely!
Let's Burn the Born-Again Bush
T.L.C.
And Bush and Company are doing everything they can
to make the problem worse.
Big
D
That's the direction in which the evidence points, but you can't prove that
"Resident" Bush is
intentionally destroying the environment.
T.L.C.
Well, he claims to
be a "born-again" Christian and a huge percentage of born-again
Christians believe in "The Rapture."
Big
D
Oh yes, that fairytale.
T.L.C.
The Rapture
says that wars, chaos, and environment destruction are all good things because
they mean that Jesus is coming very soon -- that the world is
about to end -- and that all born again Christians [and only born-again
Christians] will very soon be lifted off the
Earth and escorted straight into heaven.***ps-49-4
Big
D
Then perhaps someone should directly and publicly ask "Resident" Bush
, "Do you
believe in the rapture?"
T.L.C.
Why ask him
that?
Big
D
Because if he is supporting The Rapture,
he should be immediately thrown our of the White House.
T.L.C.
Why?
Big
D
Because, if he does
believe in the rapture, he would be serving the beliefs of Fundamentalist Christians and
not the rest of the nation. He would be promoting the end of the
Earth and not serving the public interest.
Remember the Master's words, "By
their fruits, you shall know them." Just look at what he's
doing. If "Resident" Bush is not intentionally
promoting the rapture and intentionally destroying the environment, and
intentionally promoting global level destruction, he's giving
a good imitation of someone who is.
T.L.C.
What do you mean
when you say he's promoting Global-level destruction?
Big
D
Who fired up radical Islam, Al Queda, and the Taliban? Their
potential for creating mass destruction is enormous. Global Terrorism is another area where Born-again Bush appears to be supporting
the end of the world. He invaded Iraq under false
pretenses. He started a huge religious war with Muslim
extremists.
The resultant Global Terrorism has certainly produced worldwide chaos,
has cost multi-billions of dollars, and has the potential to kill millions of humans. And the most destructive aspect of Global
Terrorism is that it's diverting attention from the world's most critical
problem, Global Climate Change. Humans need to solve both of these problems immediately, or
face the consequences which are devastating, deadly, and irreversible.***ps-49-1^
T.L.C.
Then we should ask that same, Rapture question of everybody
who works for the government.
Big
D
Yes. It's critical to know
if those who claims to be
protecting us from terrorists are actually doing their job.
What if some people in high positions of power in the U.S. government are secretly supporting
"The Rapture" and the end of the world?
T.L.C.
Is that
possible?
Big
D
It's not only possible, it's almost a certainty. Given
the number of people who believe The Rapture story to be
true, and the number of self-declared born-again Christians that
"Resident" Bush has put into critical government jobs, it's very reasonable
to assumption that some government employees are believers in The Rapture and are
secretly playing a significant role
in causing intentional destruction or are, on the sly,
interfering with the "war on
terrorism, or are underhandedly promoting more violence in Iraq."***ps-49-5
Truth Versus Fiction:
T.L.C.
How do the fundamentalist
Christians fit into this picture?
Big
D
One might think that if anyone knew the
Christian Bible, it would the leaders of fundamental Christianity.
These people claim that the Bible is the literal truth and the literal word of God. One
would expect them the be the champions of the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth.
T.L.C.
Are you saying they
aren't?
Big
D
Stony, how many times do I have to tell you, it's the evidence that tells
you things, not me. I'm simply the one who brings the
previously-ignored evidence to your attention. What does the evidence tell
you? That's what to look for and that's where to
look.
T.L.C.
Ok, ok, I've got
it.
Big
D
Are you sure?
T.L.C.
Yes!
Big
D
Don't bet on it.
T.L.C.
Why not?
Big
D
Because in only a matter of minutes, you'll be back under the control of your
old beliefs, your old programming, and conditioning.
T.L.C.
Well, I'd never bet against The
Master of Deception, anyway, so tell me about the leaders of fundamental Christianity.
Big
D
Instead of being purveyors of the whole truth, we find these leaders selling
selective literalism.
We find them completely ignoring many
significant Biblical passages such as: John
14:12 -- Luke
17:21 -- John
10:34, 35, -- Ecclesiastes --
3:19 Matthew
6:5-6 -- Ecclesiastes 11:5 -- 1
Corinthians 2:14 -- Ecclesiastes 3:11 -- Genesis
2:7.
We find them ignoring the
knowledge about the nature of man
and the nature of the universe that
has become available since the Bible
was first written.
We find them telling half truths as if half the truth were the whole truth and
thus deceiving people with lies of omission.***ps-49-6
We find them being masters of hypocrisy.***ps-49-7
We find strong evidence pointing to the conclusion that the stories
the fundamental Christian
leader's are telling to the public about God, about the nature of man and the nature of the
universe do not represent reality.
The information I'm about to share
with you, will give you and your readers a very different picture
of reality than the one
you've heard
from the fundamentalist Christian leaders. And once again, I
remind you that the evidence is right out of the Christian Bible.
T.L.C.
Big D, if I publish the transcript
of our conversation, I'll be accused of attacking
Christianity. How do I deal with that?
Big
D
Tell your readers that pointing out the ancient follies in Christian theology is
designed to modernize Christianity and rescue it from the fate of the Zoroastrian
religion.
T.L.C.
What's the Zoroastrian
religion. I never heard of it.
T.L.C.
With your question, you just underscored my point.
T.L.C.
Yes, I guess I did.
T.L.C.
Remind your readers that there is a vast difference between
the teachings of Jesus and the fundamental Christian hierarchies (the social
structures)
that attempt to tell you what His ministry means.
T.L.C.
Most people are
either not concerned about Global Climate Change or, if they are concerned, they feel powerless of do
anything about it. What do I say to them?
Big
D
Tell your readers that, because of collective human behavior, their lives
are about to change and change
very significantly. Tell them that they can participate in directing these changes
or they can do nothing and be at the effect of the changes. T.L.C.
They already know that, the question is how to
participate. Big
D
Tell your readers, first and foremost, to become aware of who and what they
are. Tell them that the
information which I'm about to share with you and with them [chapters
50-56] can be of tremendous value to them because the information it
includes a much clearer, much broader and a more inclusive perspective of who
and what human beings are and how they relate to God, nature, and each
other. And if you are talking to church-going Christians, be sure to
tell them that everything I offer has its base in the Christian Bible. And
tell them it offers a new vision of something very old -- something that has not
changed significantly in over a thousand years -- something that is generating
problems, because of the dysfunctional behavior it precipitates. Once
they have a clearer picture of reality, then their next step will become
obvious. T.L.C.
And if it doesn't become obvious.?
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